Rent vs Buy Clean

Renting vs. Buying a House

賃貸 vs 戸建てどっちがいいか決着つけよう

1. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

賃貸ちんたいメリット
転勤てんきんに強つよい
気分きぶんで住すむ場所ばしょ変かえれる
戸建てこだてメリット
高齢者こうれいしゃになっても住すむ場所ばしょに困こまらない
賃貸ちんたい料金りょうきんを払はらい続つづけなくて良よい
さあお前らおまえらはどっち

Advantages of renting: strong for job transfers; you can change where you live on a whim.
Advantages of owning a house: you won’t struggle to have somewhere to live even when you’re elderly; you don’t have to keep paying rent.
So, which do you guys choose?

Japanese	English	Explanation
賃貸	renting	Living in a property you pay monthly rent for.
メリット	advantage	Positive benefit.
転勤	job transfer	Company‑mandated relocation.
に	(to)	Particle marking target.
強い	strong	Resistant or well‑suited.
気分	mood	One’s feeling or whim.
で	with	Particle indicating means.
住む	live	Reside.
場所	place	Location where one lives.
変えれる	can change	Able to alter.
戸建て	detached house	Standalone house.
高齢者	elderly person	Older adult.
なっても	even if becomes	Regardless of becoming so.
困らない	not struggle	Won’t have trouble.
料金	fee	Money to be paid.
払い続けなくて	without continuing to pay	No need to keep paying.
良い	good	Desirable.
さあ	well then	Interjection to prompt.
お前ら	you guys	Casual plural “you.”
どっち	which	Which one.

25/05/13(火) 17:52:20 ID:K6rY

3. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

転勤てんきんリスクが少すくないなら購入こうにゅうで良よいと思おもう
戸建てこだてかどうかは、狭小きょうしょう住宅じゅうたく密集地みっしゅうちに住すむくらいならマンションで良よいと思おもう

If the risk of being transferred is low, I think buying is fine. As for whether it should be a detached house, if you'd have to live in a densely packed area of tiny houses, a condominium would be better.

Japanese	English	Explanation
転勤	job transfer	Relocation by your employer.
リスク	risk	Possibility of something negative.
が	(subject)	Particle marking subject.
少ない	few/low	Not much; small amount.
なら	if	Conditional “if.”
購入	purchase	Act of buying.
で	as	Particle showing means.
良い	good	Acceptable; fine.
と思う	I think	Speaker’s opinion.
戸建て	detached house	Standalone house.
か	whether	Interrogative/alternative marker.
どうか	or not	Whether or not.
は	(topic)	Topic particle.
狭小	narrow	Very small or cramped.
住宅	housing	Places for people to live.
密集地	dense area	Area where things are packed closely.
に	in	Particle for location.
住む	live	Reside.
くらい	to the extent	Approximately; roughly.
マンション	condominium	Multi-unit apartment building.

25/05/13(火) 18:05:01 ID:rMof

4. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

賃貸ちんたいの戸建てこだては？

What about renting a detached house?

Japanese	English	Explanation
賃貸	renting	Lease arrangement.
の	(possessive)	Genitive particle.
戸建て	detached house	Standalone home.
は	(topic)	Topic particle

25/05/13(火) 18:07:20 ID:C7GX

5. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

最高

Awesome.

Japanese	English	Explanation
最高さいこう	awesome / the best	Indicates the highest degree of excellence.

25/05/13(火) 18:07:55 ID:uohH

6. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

戸建ての賃貸って家賃どんなもんなんや

How much is the rent for a detached‑house rental?

Japanese	English	Explanation
戸建てこだて	detached house	A stand‑alone house.
の	(possessive)	Particle linking nouns.
賃貸ちんたい	rental	Property leased for a fee.
って	(topic marker)	Colloquial particle introducing a topic.
家賃やちん	rent	Money paid for using a dwelling.
どんな	how / what kind	Asking about nature or amount.
もんもの	thing	Casual noun meaning “thing/amount”.
なんや	is (dialect)	Kansai dialect equivalent of “なの?”

25/05/13(火) 18:08:20 ID:K6rY

8. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

だいたい同ランクの持ち家をローン返済分に2~3割増しくらいや
固定資産税と管理費分を上乗せされてると考えろ

Figure roughly 20–30 % more than the mortgage payment for a comparable owned home,
because the landlord is adding property tax and maintenance fees on top.

Japanese	English	Explanation
だいたい	roughly	Approximately.
同ランクどうランク	same class	Comparable grade or level.
の	(possessive)	Particle linking nouns.
持ち家もちいえ	owned home	House that the resident owns.
を	(object)	Object marker.
ローン	loan	Here, mortgage.
返済分へんさいぶん	repayment portion	Amount paid toward a loan.
に	by	Indicates ratio here.
2~3割に〜さんわり	20–30 %	Two to three tenths.
増しまし	extra	Added amount.
くらい	about	Approximate degree.
や	is (dialect)	Kansai copula.
固定資産税こていしさんぜい	property tax	Annual tax on owned property.
と	and	Coordination particle.
管理費かんりひ	maintenance fee	Monthly building management cost.
分ぶん	portion	Amount corresponding to something.
を	(object)	Object marker.
上乗せうわのせ	add on	To put on top / surcharge.
されてる	is being added	Passive progressive form.
と	that	Quotative particle.
考えろかんがえろ	think	Imperative form of 'to think'.

25/05/13(火) 18:10:33 ID:dzPI

10. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

ワイ、間取りに飽きてくるマンだから生涯賃貸かもしれん

I get bored with floor plans, so I might end up renting for life.

Japanese	English	Explanation
ワイわい	I (slang)	Casual first‑person pronoun, Kansai/5ch slang.
間取りまどり	floor plan	Layout of rooms in a house.
に	at	Target/location particle.
飽きてくるあきてくる	get bored	Grow tired of something.
マンまん	guy	‐man suffix meaning person characterized by.
だから	so	Therefore.
生涯しょうがい	lifelong	Whole life.
賃貸ちんたい	renter	Living in rental property.
かもしれん	might	Colloquial 'may' / possibility.

25/05/13(火) 18:11:59 ID:ULQ0

12. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

わかる
マイホーム立てて飽きちゃったら悲惨よな

Totally.
It’d be tragic if you built your own house and then got bored with it.

Japanese	English	Explanation
わかる	I know / feel you	Expression of agreement.
マイホームまいほーむ	one’s own home	Privately built or purchased house.
立ててたてて	build and	Te‑form of 'to build'.
飽きちゃったらあきちゃったら	if (you) got bored	Conditional of 'to get bored'.
悲惨ひさん	tragic	Miserable; disastrous.
よな	don’t you think	Sentence ending seeking agreement.

25/05/13(火) 18:12:38 ID:K6rY

13. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

双方の意見取り入れると一番糞なのって管理費もそこそこかかるマンション購入よな

When you consider both viewpoints, the absolute worst is buying a condo—you still have to pay hefty management fees.

Japanese	English	Explanation
双方そうほう	both sides	Two parties or opinions.
の	’s	Possessive particle.
意見いけん	opinions	Thoughts.
取り入れるととりいれると	if you take in	When incorporating.
一番いちばん	most	Superlative.
糞くそ	crap	Vulgar ‘awful’.
なの	is	Nominalizer + copula.
って	(topic)	Colloquial topic marker.
管理費かんりひ	management fee	Monthly maintenance charge.
も	also	Additive particle.
そこそこ	fairly	Moderately.
かかる	cost	Take (money).
マンションまんしょん	condominium	Multi‑unit building.
購入こうにゅう	purchase	Buying.
よな	right?	Seeking agreement.

25/05/13(火) 18:12:49 ID:hsZN

14. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

確かに分譲マンション購入が1番損するイメージやわ

True—buying a condo feels like the biggest loss.

Japanese	English	Explanation
確かにたしかに	indeed	Admitting truth.
分譲マンションぶんじょうまんしょん	condo for sale	Individually owned units.
購入こうにゅう	purchase	Buying.
が	(subject)	Subject marker.
1番いちばん	number one	Most.
損するそんする	lose money	Be disadvantageous.
イメージいめーじ	image	Perception.
やわ	(dialect copula)	Kansai feminine copula.

25/05/13(火) 18:13:13 ID:K6rY

15. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

東京以外の地価は今後上がりそうも無いし、普通に賃貸やな
老後が心配ではあるが戸建てでと孤独死のリスクは普通にあるしな

Land prices outside Tokyo probably won’t rise, so renting is the straightforward choice.
I do worry about retirement, but owning a house carries the risk of dying alone anyway.

Japanese	English	Explanation
東京以外とうきょういがい	outside Tokyo	Except Tokyo.
の	’s	Possessive particle.
地価ちか	land prices	Cost of land.
は	topic	Topic marker.
今後こんご	from now on	In the future.
上がりそうも無いあがりそうもない	unlikely to rise	Probably won’t increase.
し	and	Reason listing.
普通にふつうに	plainly	Simply.
賃貸ちんたい	renting	Living in a rental.
やな	is (dialect)	Copula seeking agreement.
老後ろうご	old age	Period after retirement.
が	but	Subject or contrast.
心配しんぱい	worry	Concern.
ではあるが	though it is	Concessive.
戸建てこだて	detached house	Single family home.
で	in / by	Context marker.
と	and	And/with.
孤独死こどくし	dying alone	Solitary death.
の	’s	Genitive.
リスクりすく	risk	Danger/possibility.
は	topic	Topic marker.
普通にふつうに	just	Simply / quite.
ある	exist	Be.
しな	you know	Sentence ending, dialect.

25/05/13(火) 18:13:14 ID:QpQi

16. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

頭金にできるくらいの値段で売れたらいいんだけどな
なかなかそうもいかん場合が多い

It’d be nice if you could sell it for enough to cover a down payment,
but it usually doesn’t work out that way.

Japanese	English	Explanation
頭金あたまきん	down payment	Initial lump‑sum for purchase.
に	for	Purpose particle.
できる	can	Ability.
くらい	about	Approximately.
の	’s	Genitive.
値段ねだん	price	Amount of money.
で	at	Context marker.
売れたらうれたら	if (it) sold	Conditional of 'sell'.
いい	good	Desirable.
んだけどな	but…	Expressing desire + reservation.
なかなか	quite	Easily with negative meaning here.
そうも	so	Like that.
いかん	go well (negative)	Colloquial 'won’t go'.
場合ばあい	case	Situation.
が	(subject)	Subject marker.
多いおおい	many	Numerous.

25/05/13(火) 18:13:59 ID:ULQ0

17. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

ワイこれのせいでもし両親の寿命きた際に
田舎の実家引き継ぐかめっちゃ迷ってる

Because of this, I’m really torn about whether to take over my parents’ countryside home when their time comes.

Japanese	English	Explanation
ワイわい	I (slang)	Casual first person.
これ	this	This matter.
のせいで	because of	Due to (negative cause).
もし	if	Conditional marker.
両親りょうしん	parents	Father and mother.
の	’s	Genitive.
寿命じゅみょう	lifespan	Life expectancy.
きた	comes	Arrives / happens.
際さい	when	Time.
に	at	Time/place particle.
田舎いなか	countryside	Rural area.
の	’s	Genitive.
実家じっか	family home	Parents’ house.
引き継ぐひきつぐ	inherit	Take over.
か	whether	Question marker.
めっちゃ	really	Very (slang).
迷ってるまよってる	am torn	Indecisive, wavering.

25/05/13(火) 18:14:00 ID:K6rY

18. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

戸建てって住んだ瞬間価値無くなるみたいなもんよな

A detached house basically loses its value the moment you move in.

Japanese	English	Explanation
戸建てこだて	detached house	Stand‑alone house.
って	(topic)	Colloquial topic marker.
住んだすんだ	lived	Past of 'live'.
瞬間しゅんかん	instant	Moment.
価値かち	value	Worth.
無くなるなくなる	disappear	Be lost.
みたい	like	Seems as though.
な	(adjective marker)	Descriptive.
もんもの	thing	Colloquial form.
よな	right?	Seeking agreement.

25/05/13(火) 18:14:39 ID:K6rY

19. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

ワイが知ってる高級()マンションは立地SS、外観悪趣味で
管理費が月10万もかかるせいで2500万くらいまで下落してたわ

投資としては最悪なやろな

A ‘luxury’ condo I know—top‑tier location but tacky exterior—
has fallen to about ¥25 million because the management fee is as high as 100 k a month.

As an investment it’s the worst, really.

Japanese	English	Explanation
ワイわい	I (slang)	Casual first person.
が	(subject)	Subject marker.
知ってるしってる	know	Be acquainted with.
高級こうきゅう	luxury	High‑class.
マンションまんしょん	condo	Condominium.
は	topic	Topic marker.
立地りっち	location	Site.
SSえすえす	SS	Top rank grading.
外観がいかん	exterior	Appearance.
悪趣味あくしゅみ	tasteless	In bad taste.
で	and	Conjunctive.
管理費かんりひ	management fee	Building maintenance cost.
が	(subject)	Subject marker.
月つき	per month	Monthly.
10万じゅうまん	100 k	One hundred thousand yen.
も	even	Emphatic ‘as much as’.
かかる	cost	Incurs.
せいで	because of	Due to (negative cause).
2500万にせんごひゃくまん	25 million	25 million yen.
くらい	about	Approximately.
まで	to	Up to.
下落げらく	fall	Drop in price.
してた	had done	Past progressive.
わ	(exclamation)	Sentence end, emphasis.
投資とうし	investment	Investing.
としては	as	In the role of.
最悪さいあく	worst	The least desirable.
な	(copula)	Emphatic ending.
やろ	probably (dialect)	Kansai 'darou'.
な	(particle)	Agreement.

25/05/13(火) 18:14:45 ID:hsZN

20. 名無しさん＠おーぷん

都心に近いしリフォームすれば綺麗だからと騙されて
糞古いマンションを高い金払って買うのは
ホンマ頭悪いと思うわ

People get fooled into thinking an old condo near the city center will be nice once it’s renovated,
and pay a fortune to buy it—
I honestly think that’s brain‑dead.

Japanese	English	Explanation
都心としん	city center	Downtown core.
に	to	Location.
近いちかい	close	Near.
し	and	Listing reasons.
リフォームりふぉーむ	renovation	Remodeling.
すれば	if (you) do	Conditional.
綺麗きれい	clean / nice	Beautiful.
だから	so	Therefore.
と	and	Quotative particle.
騙されてだまされて	be fooled	Passive of 'trick'.
糞古いくそふるい	very old	Slang emphasizing age.
マンションまんしょん	condo	Apartment building.
を	(object)	Object marker.
高いたかい	expensive	High price.
金かね	money	Cash.
払ってはらって	pay and	Te‑form.
買うかう	buy	Purchase.
のは	doing that is	Nominalizer + topic.
ホンマほんま	really	Truly (Kansai).
頭悪いあたまわるい	stupid	Unwise.
と	that	Quotation.
思うおもう	think	Believe.
わ	(feminine emphasis)	Emphatic ending.

25/05/13(火) 18:15:31 ID:uohH

One-Point Lesson: What Makes Osaka Dialect Unique? (English)

Osaka dialect (a variety of Kansai-ben) stands out for its distinct endings, intonation, and playful vocabulary. Where standard Japanese ends a statement with “–da-yo,” Osaka speakers often use “–ya de” or “–ya nen,” adding a stronger, more personal nuance. Questions that end in “–no?” in standard speech shorten to a snappy “–nan?” or “–nanya?” in Osaka style.

Ending examples
- Standard: Sō da yo. (“That’s right.”) → Osaka: Sō ya de / Sō ya nen.
- Standard: Ikanai no? (“Aren’t you going?”) → Osaka: Ika-hen no? / Ika-hen non?
Signature words
- meccha (“very”), honma (“really”), ōkini (“thank you”)
Intonation tends to rise at the end, giving the speech a friendly, upbeat rhythm.
Because Osaka is the heart of Japan’s comedy scene, the dialect is rich in quickfire tsukkomi (witty retorts).

Thanks to comedy shows and pop culture, Osaka dialect is recognized nationwide and often used to convey warmth and liveliness. In formal business settings or with unfamiliar people, however, sticking to standard Japanese is safer. Mastering this switch dramatically widens your communicative range in Japanese.

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